The Sleeping at Last Poscast is developed by Ryan ONeal. He wrote a song/poem for each enneagram type. He presents how he developed the song as well as interviews people of that type. The Type 9 episode is 2 hours — pretty long. You can understand much of the type 9 in the first hour. Truthfully though, I enjoyed the whole thing. My husband is a type 9 and I came away with a good deal of empathy for his world view.